These tea bowls were a challenge to the thrower, seen at the right, to throw as many as he could in 5 minutes. He did 18. Very doable off the hump. I will be timing myself when I get home! BTW he is 33 and has been throwing pots for a living since he was 16.The upper right shot is a plate that the over glaze painter did along with at least 2 other pieces today.